I bought a Gibson R7 Goldtop with half a mind to do some experimenting with, so after it arrived from Denmark courtesy of Peter from Guitarhunter.dk, I set about gathering some material.
I had Gibson Custombuckers that I took out of a 2017 '58 re-issue, the stock 2010 Burstbuckers and so I bought OX4 stock low wind Alnico IV PAFs and Creamery '59 PAFs to fill out the candidates.
I asked for low wind OX4s and Alnico III magnets in the Creamery pickups and after a bit, they duly arrived. The Creamery pickups did take quite a time but they are also almost half the price of the OX4, so are in demand.
I guess the small builders don't have a production line of coil winders and focused technicians beavering away making stock for the shelves. Part of the appeal is that you are getting something that is hand made.
So, some glamour shots of our contestants:
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This time around I thought it best to actually measure the DC resistance of the coils for each type and to record the measurement of the pickup height too. The latter I will include for one pickup set but rest assured, it was done for each. I know what a difference a variation in the height of the pickup can make as magnetic fields follow the inverse square rule.
So here is a gallery of the resistance measurements and height adjustment:
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After installation and height adjustment, I installed new strings and played them in for a few days. Also because I wanted to get a feel of how they would sound. The recording was done as the first video, which acts as a sort of template.
I have a few amps but the Carr was a nice choice because it has a clear clean sound, a great reverb and has a built in attenuator; an actual dummy voice coil without a cone to soak up that sound pressure.
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For this video, I decided to include overdrive and higher gain sounds and though any differences might be clouded, it's still something that can influence a choice whether to buy or not, so I used the Carr at almost maximum output but attenuated and also a Kingtone Duellist on the B side which apparently is the Marshall Guv'nor circuit tweaked.
I set it as can be seen in the photo gallery below:
The timing of the excerpts is listed below and in the video on YouTube, so you can click on a description and hear pickups back to back:
0:00 - Intro
1:02 - Pickup microphony
3:05 - Chord phrase BB neck
3:25 - Chord phrase CB neck
3:47 - Chord phrase OX4 neck
4:07 - Chord phrase Creamery neck
4:27 - Chord phrase BB both
4:46 - Chord phrase CB both
5:06 - Chord phrase OX4 both
5:26 - Chord phrase Creamery both
5:46 - Chord phrase BB bridge
6:03 - Chord phrase CB bridge
6:22 - Chord phrase OX4 bridge
6:41 - Chord phrase Creamery bridge
7:04 - Fingerpicking BB neck
7:21 - Fingerpicking CB neck
7:37 - Fingerpicking OX4 neck
7:53 - Fingerpicking Creamery neck
8:10 - Fingerpicking BB both
8:26 - Fingerpicking CB both
8:44 - Fingerpicking OX4 both
9:01 - Fingerpicking Creamery both
9:17 - Fingerpicking BB bridge
9:33 - Fingerpicking CB bridge
9:49 - Fingerpicking OX4 bridge
10:06 - Fingerpicking Creamery bridge
10:25 - Single note BB neck
10:36 - Single note CB neck
10:49 - Single note OX4 neck
11:01 - Single note Creamery neck
11:12 - Single note BB both
11:23 - Single note CB both
11:35 - Single note OX4 both
11:47 - Single note Creamery both
11:58 - Single note BB bridge
12:09 - Single note CB bridge
12:21 - Single note OX4 bridge
12:34 - Single note Creamery bridge
12:51 - Amp overdrive BB neck
12:04 - Amp overdrive CB neck
13:30 - Amp overdrive OX4 neck
13:55 - Amp overdrive Creamery neck
14:21 - Amp overdrive BB both
14:35 - Amp overdrive CB both
14:59 - Amp overdrive OX4 both
15:23 - Amp overdrive Creamery both
15:47 - Amp overdrive BB bridge
16:02 - Amp overdrive CB bridge
16:28 - Amp overdrive OX4 bridge
16:52 - Amp overdrive Creamery bridge
17:17 - Amp overdrive BB neck
17:34 - Amp overdrive CB neck
18:02 - Amp overdrive OX4 neck
18:28 - Amp overdrive Creamery neck
18:51 - Amp overdrive BB both
19:08 - Amp overdrive CB both
19:34 - Amp overdrive OX4 both
19:59 - Amp overdrive Creamery both
20:21 - Amp overdrive BB bridge
20:40 - Amp overdrive CB bridge
21:01 - Amp overdrive OX4 bridge
21:27 - Amp overdrive Creamery bridge
22:03 - Duellist BB neck
22:47 - Duellist CB neck
23:30 - Duellist OX4 neck
24:11 - Duellist Creamery neck
24:54 - Duellist BB both
25:34 - Duellist CB both
26:18 - Duellist OX4 both
27:01 - Duellist Creamery both
27:44 - Duellist BB bridge
28:22 - Duellist CB bridge
29:04 - Duellist OX4 bridge
29:47 - Duellist Creamery bridge
So, any conclusions?
For me, my comments are:
Gibson Burstbucker - noticeably lower output than the Custombuckers and much softer. They have a tamer high end and can sound as some would describe as 'warm' and other describe as 'muffled'. This is a characteristic I noticed in comparison to other Les Pauls and also in other comparison videos. It's not a bad pickup but it might suit a bright thin sounding guitar more. It has nice build and the nickel covers look good.
DC resistances are not low but the quietest on the test. Weird. Not microphonic, so probably potted.
Gibson Custombuckers - very forward and mid focused with more punch and heft. It was noticeable even driving the amp or with the duellist. Is this a PAF sound? Probably is and I'm sure a lot of people would really go for this mid humped pushy sound. Gibson certainly made a lot of these and they are well liked. Good build and covers too but not deliberately aged. Not microphonic really, so must be potted is my guess.
OX4 low wind Alnico IV - these pickups are very well regarded with a lot of adherents and sound a lot less coloured in the midrange than any of the others. They have a lower output signal which is what I wanted and, being unpotted, have a characteristic that I think is common to that build style i.e. a responsive high end which on one hand allows a lot of subtle picking and tone shaping possibilities but also might result in squealing shrill feedback on that Slayer tribute gig. The impression the OX4 give me is that there is no particular hump in the frequency response, no overwhelming bump - just a clear clean pickup that doesn't muddy up or sound congested.
I spent quite a bit longer finding a sound though but I'm looking for a coloured sound, a 'honkiness' in the top end. The OX4 did have a bit of that but in retrospect, I might have gone for the medium wind or chosen some Alnico III magnets.
I play clean mostly but if bluesy dirt was your thing, this pickup might be ideal as it would cut through and wouldn't turn to mush in the front of a driven amplifier. You can hear the clarity even in the Duellist portion of the comparison.
Quite microphonic as can be heard, which I like and covers which are aged but aren't massively convincing to be honest.
Creamery '59 Alnico III - took ages to arrive! They were also supplied with a non-US baseplate and pickup height adjustment legs, so although screws and springs were supplied, they wouldn't fit through my Gibson rings so I had to use some Crazyparts rings instead which had a hole big enough. I then was left with metric screws with Phillips head adjustment. Not a fan really, especially on a PAF replica which used slotted US screws.
They are much cheaper but if I was to suggest anything, I would say ask a small premium for a more authentic baseplate and US hardware; Gibson style. The braided cable also came out the wrong way on the neck pickup but was long enough.
The covers were the least convincing and although ordered aged, the effect was minimal and the covers look a bit cheap actually. I would pay more for a better cover!
However, I loved the sound of these. very microphonic but that clanky honky nasal sound on the bridge pickup was there and despite some frustrations with the fitting, I was very pleased with the sound of them even only after a few minutes playing.
They share the same low output but have a colouration I personally like and this is the big thing:
Everyone has different expectations of what a PAF pickup should sound like and as very few of us have heard originals, it's all a bit of personal taste. The southern rock fan may love the Custombucker, the British blues boom fanatic may love the Creamery, the modern blues rock type might edge towards the OX4 and the guy who likes all of the above except a bit more muffled may go for the Burstbucker but it's all personal preference.
Mine is for the Creamery '59 at present but there are loads of PAF replicas out there, so maybe I will try more but I have to say that up until the Creamery pickups went in, I was having doubts about the Goldtop. Maybe it wasn't very good? Acoustically it sounded great but I just didn't think it was fantastic and I think the Creamery pickups have made it fantastic, so a lot of it is also matching the guitar with a pickup set and that's unpredictable. Another guitar and the OX4 would have stayed in. If only the Creamery had the physical form of the OX4, the covers from the Custombucker but kept the sound...
However, the next video may feature the Creamery with covers, then NAKED and then with a new set of Crazyparts aged nickel Area59 and I will try to record any differences. I still need to source some metric M3x25mm slotted panhead screws though as those Phillips head look awful!
:-)
Pickups:
Gibson Burstbucker 1 &2, Custombuckers available via reverb or ebay or nicked out of your mate's Les Paul when he's not looking
OX4 pickups available online at ox4pickups.co.uk
Creamery pickups available online at creamery-pickups.co.uk